I don't have any intentions to be mean or whatever and I don't play your server, but from an objective point of view this whole thread seems to be 'QQing' about 'QQing' and to make matters worse, you're now purposely and publicly defaming the accused people yourself.
I suggest you send an email with your complaints about player harassment to the GMs and let the people responsible handle this. That way there would be nobody that could possibly call you hypocritical.
Just my two cents on the matter.
Darknae and Eldarwene??
Re: Darknae and Eldarwene??
RosY wrote:I don't have any intentions to be mean or whatever and I don't play your server, but from an objective point of view this whole thread seems to be 'QQing' about 'QQing' and to make matters worse, you're now purposely and publicly defaming the accused people yourself.
I suggest you send an email with your complaints about player harassment to the GMs and let the people responsible handle this. That way there would be nobody that could possibly call you hypocritical.
Just my two cents on the matter.
As I said before, Admin is fully aware of the situation. Admin will do what they will do, I'm not about getting anyone in trouble with Admin. I don't care about that...I want an apology, period.
I haven't defamed anyone. I've merely suggested some of the logical scenarios that may explain why the situation exists. And these are not accused people, they're the ones doing the accusing. It needs to stop and because they are "respected" figures in the community in positions of leadership, I expect them to make it right as publicly as they made it wrong.
Re: Darknae and Eldarwene??
Well...its been 5 days now, and I guess it is possible that I might have missed them in game. Nobody else has mentioned seeing them since their little episode, though.
Maybe they're just too busy IRL to log in and play. Maybe they just don't want to.
The problem that's bigger than me is that rumors of Admin and GM corruption are globally lethal to private servers. With this in mind, now I'm forced to ask a couple of questions...
Are they just mad for previous punishments and being maliciously vengeful?
Are they playing on another server...or maybe even Admin or GM there? I'm not making accusations, but that is one of the oldest tricks in the private server competition book.
I truly hope that life has not dealt them a severely harsh blow preventing them from enjoying their free time. But sadly, their silent absence is raising more difficult questions than answers. I hope that if or when they do come back, they will answer them for us.
Maybe they're just too busy IRL to log in and play. Maybe they just don't want to.
The problem that's bigger than me is that rumors of Admin and GM corruption are globally lethal to private servers. With this in mind, now I'm forced to ask a couple of questions...
Are they just mad for previous punishments and being maliciously vengeful?
Are they playing on another server...or maybe even Admin or GM there? I'm not making accusations, but that is one of the oldest tricks in the private server competition book.
I truly hope that life has not dealt them a severely harsh blow preventing them from enjoying their free time. But sadly, their silent absence is raising more difficult questions than answers. I hope that if or when they do come back, they will answer them for us.
Re: Darknae and Eldarwene??
I think someone needs to hand out cookies. That's my very personal opinion 
x1000 - Solomon
Re: Darknae and Eldarwene??
Hey, Im entering as a neutral party to this conversation.
I witnessed the WC 'argument' in the 200x server and I have a few points to highlight and bring out.
1) Things will only get worse with this post. Surely, one would want to SOLVE the problem not USE the problem.
2) The both of them are HEAVY donors (from last I heard 400 USD a month) [Irrelevant to the issue but just to highlight to my friend who brought up the issue on QQ_ing towards donors.]
3) The person involved in the WC should NOT have defamed Divinity on a global(server) scale. That is just WRONG and he should APOLOGIZE. However, he would not have claimed so with baseless reason. Let him show proof or remain quiet. SIMPLE.
Regardless whether it is true or not, we should not alienate him nor should we brand him 'QQ-er' or 'Childish' as above. So, both sides should just apologize to each other, for you all owe each other that. Oh btw, I agree with you Vyperion, you have very constructive arguments.
Just my thoughts. =)
"This server has really become a shadow of its past."
Reia11
NewSchool Commander
I witnessed the WC 'argument' in the 200x server and I have a few points to highlight and bring out.
1) Things will only get worse with this post. Surely, one would want to SOLVE the problem not USE the problem.
2) The both of them are HEAVY donors (from last I heard 400 USD a month) [Irrelevant to the issue but just to highlight to my friend who brought up the issue on QQ_ing towards donors.]
3) The person involved in the WC should NOT have defamed Divinity on a global(server) scale. That is just WRONG and he should APOLOGIZE. However, he would not have claimed so with baseless reason. Let him show proof or remain quiet. SIMPLE.
Regardless whether it is true or not, we should not alienate him nor should we brand him 'QQ-er' or 'Childish' as above. So, both sides should just apologize to each other, for you all owe each other that. Oh btw, I agree with you Vyperion, you have very constructive arguments.
Just my thoughts. =)
"This server has really become a shadow of its past."
Reia11
NewSchool Commander
Re: Darknae and Eldarwene??
The only person who really shoulda' replied was the ones' started this in the first place. The post was directed to Darknae and Eldarwene. SInce they didnt care to discuss the matter then leaves us no other alternatives to take it to the game mono e mono. And GM and Admin can deal with the rest.
Personally I could care less, but if they bad mouth me or my homies again I will KOS for life on site.
PERIOD!
Personally I could care less, but if they bad mouth me or my homies again I will KOS for life on site.
PERIOD!
Re: Darknae and Eldarwene??
Why do you say that?oration wrote:"This server has really become a shadow of its past."
Vyper!on
Re: Darknae and Eldarwene??
Well, part of the problem is that venting in WC only serves to flame and defame people, including LMS. Another part of the problem is, I understand that all of their proof has been submitted to Admin and all appropriate actions have been taken with regards to this evidence...and once again, there have been no disciplinary actions taken.oration wrote:Hey, Im entering as a neutral party to this conversation.
I witnessed the WC 'argument' in the 200x server and I have a few points to highlight and bring out.
1) Things will only get worse with this post. Surely, one would want to SOLVE the problem not USE the problem.
2) The both of them are HEAVY donors (from last I heard 400 USD a month) [Irrelevant to the issue but just to highlight to my friend who brought up the issue on QQ_ing towards donors.]
3) The person involved in the WC should NOT have defamed Divinity on a global(server) scale. That is just WRONG and he should APOLOGIZE. However, he would not have claimed so with baseless reason. Let him show proof or remain quiet. SIMPLE.
Regardless whether it is true or not, we should not alienate him nor should we brand him 'QQ-er' or 'Childish' as above. So, both sides should just apologize to each other, for you all owe each other that. Oh btw, I agree with you Vyperion, you have very constructive arguments.
Just my thoughts. =)
"This server has really become a shadow of its past."
Reia11
NewSchool Commander
Since they've chosen to open up their can of worms again publicly, it needs to be closed again publicly. The forums provide an excellent place to do that because it is a bit more permanent than a fleeting WC. Words can be a lot like a car wreck, it only takes a second to inflict an injury but can take a lifetime to heal.
I don't think anyone would be opposed to the presentation of legitimate evidence of corruption. Perhaps they would prefer to submit it to Admin quietly, and that's fine. But if that's the case...then the "quietly" thing needs a much broader application. Since it a bit late for the "quiet" thing, the whole situation is SNAFU'd and only two people can fix it.
As I said in the OP, I don't know them and they don't know me. It isn't my desire to alienate or humiliate them. But I can assure you that any potential for a future friendship rests entirely on their efforts of reparation now.
Re: Darknae and Eldarwene??
Vyp, let me give you a breakdown on what is happening to 200x from my eyes. Which may be wrong.
Number 1, the players are dwindling in numbers. ADC W used to be pack but it is actually quite empty these days in exception of peak hours (rancor etc/ weekends) etc. Let me give you all a boring drawl on my history in 200x.
When I joined, NewSchool took me in and taught me all that I know about the private server (I am from PW-my so I know the mechanics quite well already). It was really fun to be online and stuff but some drama caught up, like above. Ever since then, world chat is often flooded with all these drama and stories of players quiting out of rage are commonplace. In fact, I do not see half of the people who I knew of when I joined which saddens me greatly.
I implore all old players in and out of NewSchool to forget the drama that have been lumped onto us and return home. Im lonely. I also implore players of 200x to be more open in community-building as we as a private server have a way smaller community then the real server (which has too many, and that is why people stick to guildies, which consists of nearly 100+ people anyway).
I tire of dramatic WC's. I tire of a one-guild mentaility in 200x. It was not so when I joined. My friends, what has happened? I will always work my hardest to enliven this server. Always.
Number 1, the players are dwindling in numbers. ADC W used to be pack but it is actually quite empty these days in exception of peak hours (rancor etc/ weekends) etc. Let me give you all a boring drawl on my history in 200x.
When I joined, NewSchool took me in and taught me all that I know about the private server (I am from PW-my so I know the mechanics quite well already). It was really fun to be online and stuff but some drama caught up, like above. Ever since then, world chat is often flooded with all these drama and stories of players quiting out of rage are commonplace. In fact, I do not see half of the people who I knew of when I joined which saddens me greatly.
I implore all old players in and out of NewSchool to forget the drama that have been lumped onto us and return home. Im lonely. I also implore players of 200x to be more open in community-building as we as a private server have a way smaller community then the real server (which has too many, and that is why people stick to guildies, which consists of nearly 100+ people anyway).
I tire of dramatic WC's. I tire of a one-guild mentaility in 200x. It was not so when I joined. My friends, what has happened? I will always work my hardest to enliven this server. Always.
Re: Darknae and Eldarwene??
I played on 200x back when it was 100x. That means 1 year ago. I quit LMSPW and i came back 6 months ago but not on 200x anymore. Last year 200x was so empty all the time. But now i heard it has many ppl online. That is good.
1000x has a lot of ppl on but most of them get bored. 80% from my guild is inactive during the week but they show on TW. I belive same issue is on 200x. People get bored but eventually they will come back. Don't worry!
1000x has a lot of ppl on but most of them get bored. 80% from my guild is inactive during the week but they show on TW. I belive same issue is on 200x. People get bored but eventually they will come back. Don't worry!
Vyper!on